what concerns me about Anita Sarkeesian et al is that there is so little, basically no room for women to be human in publicity-based industries like this.
You bring up the harassment that Sarkeesian gets and people will say: “Well but I feel like she cherry-picks information…
She fucking did it to herself you bunch of fucking morons
#mysoginists are so predictable
fucking lel. Have you seen the screencaps of the specific tweets she might be referring to? Nothing strikes you as odd about it? And being against one female (make that two, since Zoe Quinn is also a piece of shit) because of how they go about what they do is mysoginistic gives me a little chuckle.
And she receive death threats and rape that caused her to fear? Have you heard of what happened to Kootra? People know where he and his group streams from. There are probably people who hate his crew for just being them and wouldn’t mind hurting them or worse. They still go about their days like nothing happened
…literally the entire story with kootra is that some asshole cares enough about winning at LoL that they called in the SWAT to his house under false pretenses, and the guy who did it is a 15-year-old kid who’s fucking crying in court because he apparently hadn’t realised his actions had fucking consequences. There’s no sign that people “hate” kootra or have any real intention to hurt him, there’s manbabies on the Internet who end up looking like literal manbabies when they get found out.
And I’m not sure how you think that helps your case, because it’s just another proof of how full of immature assholes a lot of the competitive gaming scene is, which is, you know, part of why people are sending Anita Sarkeesian rape and death threats (and calling her a piece of shit) for making videos on the Internet.
The story you are referring to is false. Yes, I would like to believe that the asshole got a punishment, but alas, the picture is taken from the trial of a man (or boy) who beat his girlfriend’s child to death. If i re-find it, I will link it to you. And there is no sign because I highly doubt the Creatures care to even talk about it, because it is of no importance. I mean, the call itself is kinda of a little sign that there is a small minority that probably do hate them.
Now, about Anita, it’s not that she’s just making videos. She kinda goes out of her way to always paint females as the victims. She has scammed people and excludes scenarios in the same games where it is possible to do a horrific action to both males and females, and paints it only about women. The threats that made her fear are more than anything, to save face and make it look like she is always the victim
The story you posted is obviously false as it’s from a satire site. I only heard of the whole thing and never saw a real news article on it, so it’s possible I was misled and nobody was caught for it. It’s really pretty irrelevant, since anyway as far as I know there’s no such thing as an ongoing campaign against kootra, it’s one isolated act. It’s also a serious crime and being treated as such. I still have no idea why you thought bringing that up would help. Whether kootra personally feels threatened has nothing to do with whether Anita Sarkeesian could/should feel threatened, or whether the shit being flung at her is in any way okay or justified. And the whole incident with kootra also makes the (almost completely male) competitive gaming scene look like shit, which also doesn’t help you at all. Like, why would you bring up more fucked-up shit that gamers have done for petty reasons?
Threatening rape or death on someone is also a crime, regardless of actual intent (which can’t be divined by the person receiving them), so long as they seem reasonably serious. The main impression I get is you’re a lot more worried about the vague possibility of kootra getting hurt than the same possibility applying to Sarkeesian, and seeing the sheer quantity of gratuitous shit that’s been thrown at her since she started making videos, I would not be surprised if there were “a small minority” actually willing to hurt her.
I could also defend her videos, but this post is long enough and that’s not the point. Even if you were right about her videos, so what? For one thing, that would barely make her video harmful, except perhaps to really fragile egos, and there would still be so many people saying and doing so much worse on YouTube, and not drawing an active campaign of death and rape threats because that’s a fucking shitty and criminal thing to do.
Oh good, you know that particular article is satire. I posted it because that seemed to be what you were referring to. And you impression is actually off, since I’m not worried about can happen to Kootra.
But going back to Anita, I agree that her videos would barely be harmful… if a large majority of people didn’t buy into them. Most, if not all, of her videos have comments disabled. Why do you think that is? There is a chance that it might be to avoid trolls, but what about when people bring actual criticisms of what she is referring to? Why, when she is criticizing video games, does she prohibit people from bringing up counter-points or tidbits that have been left out? By people willingly to actually debate and not be just “hurr durr you’re a girl, you don’t know what you’re talking about”? If someone is willing to avoid getting criticism, then wouldn’t it make sense for them to play some kind of victim with made up threats and whatnot to avoid criticisms of what they make? Now, if it is revealed that someone did actually make the threats, then I would be more than willing to apologize for insinuating it was her. However, from the profile of the twitter that sent it, there is something very fishy about it.
None of this fucking matters, because you’re still defending the sending of rape and death threats by arguing trite bullshit regarding the contents of her videos. You want inappropriate comments, threats and remarks about and directed at Sarkeesian, you can go find them yourself, because literally every open discussion about her videos is full of them.
It’s also completely fucking irrelevant whether the one specific Twitter comment you’re talking about was “genuine”. That’s the thing with threats though, that you don’t know whether someone’s going to go through with it, which is also why some people throw them around so easily, because they can pass the whole thing off as a joke when someone who receives threats on a regular basis gets legitimately scared and holds people accountable. But for what it’s worth, why would you be surprised that threatening tweets come from a “fishy” account? What kind of idiot would make serious threats at a fairly well-known person from their own personal twitter account? Making fake accounts to harass people is pretty fucking common, more common than making a fake account to harass yourself and then move out of your fucking house at your own expense, and for what? Attention she already has? The entire thing is casting her not just as a feminist you don’t agree with, but as an actually malicious person (who will sacrifice a lot of her time and energy to, what, get a subset of male gamers more irrationally angry at her than they already are?) based on no proof at all. Sorry buddy, but threats on the Internet from irate dudebros happen all the time, and the simplest explanation is that they happened, to her, a lot. That she lied about it is what you’ve got to prove, not the other way around. You’re assuming she lied because it fits the picture you want to paint of her, not because you’ve got anything to go on.
As I said, evenif she were wrong about everything, the only thing endangered would be fragile egos. Not only is she correct in the first place, her videos always remain pretty nice about everything, stay impersonal, and also stay rather basic. Even if she were wrong, the reactions she draws from many male gamers would be more harmful than her videos. That is, even if you were right about everything, your attitude regarding this whole thing would still be fucking terrible.
I… never defending sending her death threats. You are misconstruing what I have been saying. The bottom line of everything I have said is that she supposedly sent herself the threats. Her videos are actually wrong because she picks and chooses her arguments to fit her agenda. I could easily pick and choose points that can paint women as evil beings, black people as animals, white people as saints and whatnot. But the integrity of my arguments would be horrible. The point I have been trying to make is that it is plausible she made some of the threats herself. I brought up Kootra’s incident to kinda show that you can just ignore it and move on with your life. And threats from the internet: waaah. I live in an area that has a lot of ghetto people around. I literally had a group of black people threaten me because I had call the cops on them for robbing me. I lived 15 minutes away, walking to my house for 2 years with that threat over my head. And I’m not someone that people get scared of. I was a 5’4 110 lbs scrawny son of a bitch. And I find it hilarious that you are implying that it’s only male gamers that have issues with her. Are females all a hive mind that believe Anita? Is there not the possibility that there are actual female gamers that are also annoyed with her crappily made arguments? And in regards to me having to prove she sent the threats, this is the fucking internet where anonymity rules unless you say who you are . Both sides have to prove their validity
…I think at this point I’m just going to leave this here for the enjoyment of less terrible people. I might bother typing up a point-by-point thing on why virtually every sentence in that post is full of shit, but uh, right now it’s a bit too much, what with the not-so-low key racism you just added into the mix.
Suffice to say, I am a straight white male in his twenties who has been playing video games in most of his free time since the age of four, been kind of a stereotypical nerd with few friends and virtually no friends who were girls for pretty much all of my teenage years, and I think you may need to get out more, and also read a book or three on the side. As both a male gamer and a sociology student, I wouldn’t mind talking about the actual content of her videos, if you ever stop bending over backwards to avoid dealing with the fact that the reactions she draws from male gamers (and I think you’ll find female gamers, even if they disagree with her, don’t have the same reaction to her videos as male gamers) is pretty fucking problematic. That was the basic issue, and that’s what’d make you a gigantic asshole regardless of your stance on her videos.